User talk:Beta wolf/December 2010 Chat Log

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RE:missing information:

hey beta wolf i have added some information the history and more details on how to join so goto my clan page and tell me if its ok if its not answer me please



XXDeathOrGlory 6/12/10

I Have Added A "Clan History" To My Clan Page: Please Let Me Know If This Is Suitable.


Well, the requirements are the basic ones, you know, 5 members, non-active, inapporpiate clan names and the such.

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 02:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Blue Blood

I have added how to join! Sorry for the delay we had our examinations last week.


Excuse me, but this is Nine Knives, the co-leader of the Order of Twilight, and the writer of the contract against chaos. Why was the talk for the page 'contract against chaos' deleted? Thanks. Nine Knives 22:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan Creation

  • Are you allowed to be like a leader of a clan and a co-leader of another?
  • If not, are you allowed to be the leader of one clan and create another for someone else?

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 08:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

hey i edited and just wanted to say sorry man i just wanted to tell ppl its rare

Rules for clan page format

Can you give me a copy of the necessary articles of information that must be included in a clan page, for the sake of reference and to avoid making any such mistakes in the future. Much obliged. --Oblivion1, of Requiem

Warning Notice?

Hey, i just saw the warning notice that you put up on some clan pages. I can understand the ones asking for "how to join", but what do you maen by "clan history"? Because if you mean a founding date, then that makesno sense b/c both clan pages i saw had one. But, if you mean a backstory, then dont you think that a backstory really isnt necesarry to a functioning clan? But i dont know what you meant, so, if you could get back to me on this that would be great.

--En guarde! Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 20:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan History?

I noticed you put something about haveing to put History of Clan on my clan page. What do you mean by history?

--Jack2.png // The Pirate Killers // My Talk Page // My Contibs 22:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

A "How to Join"

Is a chain of links not good enough? I just post a trail of links leading up to registration on my clan wiki page. My wiki page links to the main page of the Requiem clan, which links to the forums, where they apply, then links them to the registration page. It's self-explanatory, and part of the process of weeding out members is avoiding those who can't figure out what the whole trail means. The ones who get the whole thing and follow through to the end are reviewed and accepted. Do I still then have to list exactly what one must do in order to join our clan? It would detract from the fun of having to figure out certain things yourself.

Just wondering, because I don't want to ruin the flow of our wiki page.

--Red Blizzard of Requiem 00:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: "How to Join"

That's just more of the minimalist style going into play. I tried defining Requiem like all other clans, but it just didn't stand out enough to me. Besides, a clan is technically defined by their members, their purpose, and their achievements. Our clan page has the required number of members listed, so no worries there. Our purpose is to be the best, and our stance is neutral. That too is defined on the page. Our achievements are also defined, so all the basic stuff is there. I pretty much took a look at what the rules required, did everything needed, and made it look the way I wanted it to look.

As for the recruitment chain, it's outlined in the application forum itself, which is where the link trail ends. We don't have any requirements, instead we judge each member individually. That's stated on the forum as well. I figure the less we share, the more of a certain type of player we attract. What you're asking me to do is to fit the mold by putting more information down, something that I feel is unnecessary and liable to attract more of the crowd that we're going to filter out anyways through our recruitment process, so why waste the energy and increase our troubles?

I'm asking you to please let me slide on this one. We have what we need for the wiki page, and quite frankly, it's been working. We get recruits who are impressed by who we are and what we state, and we get clans approaching us with the impression I want them to get. No one's hurt by our clan page, as it doesn't insult anyone, and it says enough about Requiem to constitute a page unto itself.

--Red Blizzard of Requiem 02:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Eh, agreed. We'll continue this topic on loreforum. I do hope Al hurries up with that site, it had funny bugs the last time I checked.

--Red Blizzard of Requiem 03:40, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The clan history stuff.

I added the stuff you wanted to my clan page. I really don't see the point in it but rules are rules.

Thanks for the heads up though, I'm really glad you told me before my clan was disbanned.

--Signature.PNG // The Pirate Killers // My Talk Page // My Contibs 04:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I have added the information needed for my clan page has knightofdarkness99

Signiture1.png from Clan:vampirelords

Merciless Assassins of Doom

How to join section added!

Drumroll91, Head Assassin of MAD 19:40, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


editings done

--Spiker 64 00:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan updates

We already had clan history at the very top of the page-It's just so new theres not anything to put there. We also had "How to Join" already there classified under "Governing Systems". Also as for "Clan Editor" according to what SysOps have told me no clan has the right to claim any specific words. So in all technicality you guys are taking the freedom of speech away from us because another clan has used those words,yet you let other clans use our words. No intentions of starting a fight, but I'd very much so like an explanation of why you listed 2 things we already had and why you're not allowing us our freedom of speech. I've been told in the past when I declared war on the Shadow Lords of Defiance for stealing Defiance's name that "Any specific use of words is not limited to 1 clan and they have to rights to use those words. Nothing on the wiki belongs to 1 person ANYONE can use these items" and so on. As for "conflicts with another clan" thats how Shadow Lords of Defiance got in their last war before they were disbanded. For stealing the name of Defiance. And none of you SysOps cared in the least so it does seem obvious you're favoring 1 clan over another-Overlords of war Page Editor

P.S. Why is it not allowed to Co-Lead another clan if you own/run one??? In my opinion it doesn't affect other clans or anyone for that matter. Also how does that "Conflict with another clan" if we're not allowed to to begin with???

Hmm I found THIS on Worse Doughnuts talk page said by YOU

"names and titles are not owned by anyone in the wiki"

Like I said I'm not meaning to start a fight here, but I can get irritated by things like this-Akiyama25


Ok thanks for clarifying that. Sorry if my rant annoyed you lol. Thanks-Akiyama25

HI, this is the leader from clan, S.T.A.R, I think i put up the stuff you wanted, i dont get what you mean by clan 'history' so i hope thats wha you meant

Done yet?

I think I have just scraped the basics into our clan. --Spiker 64 08:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok I have tried to Include everything you said, and if I havent please tell me what I need to do, but I think Im done, if not, please tell me what I need to do and to extend the period

--Spiker 64 [[User talk:Spiker 64 | Talk page]] 00:21, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Elite's Clan Page

This one Clan page has very big pictures. Can you tell them to lower it because it makes their Clan page laggy. And I need to tell this to a responsible Sys-op. Thanks and Goodluck! --Larry Stone 8:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Assassins of lore's clan page

Finish with the how to join!


Dark Legion's Clan Page

I just got done putting in the How To Join section on my clan page. So please dont disbann it.Rambo023

The Clarification

A friend of mine wanted to poke through some old history for archiving and cataloguing. I hope you don't mind.

There is one other issue I'm concerned with though. If another player were to try and make a new Alleble Knights clan, would they be allowed to? Considering the impact the former clan had on the wiki. The reason I ask is because Jooda threatens to form such a clan. He's already made a Guardians of Doom page on the AE forums that I had to take down because of a fake members list.

--Red Blizzard of Requiem 07:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


I have already added the infos. Thanks for the notification.

~~ SysOp _DrakeGuard_ // Talk Page // BloodLine Conquerors


K, i added the "How to Join" section. Thanks for the notification, i didnt even realize there wasnt a section for that.

--En guarde! Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 03:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


Alright Beta Wolf i finished all my thing's you posted on tthe page (Undead Redemption). I hope I did eveything to your spesicications if not please feel free to drop a comment on the talk page.


Ok im having trouble with the "Who We Are" part can't think of anything... Could oyu maybe tell me what soe other people could include?


Why is that notice still on the "Overlords of War" clan page? I had all the info you wanted added added and everything you needed removed removed and taught demon how to edit it himself....that notice shouldnt still be there-Akiyama25


Thats not a list of leaders. It's a list of people who have achieved the rank of Overlord-Akiyama25

Overlord of war is not a leader/co-leader ranking. Any person can achieve this rank. The purpose of the Overlord rank is so the clan has a list of people to go to in case of war. Having myself under the "Overlord" ranking means nothing other than Demon Blade54 himself actually told me that I was Overlord ranking after I dominated him in PvP. The title "Secretary of War" also doesn't apply to anything. Thinking of it like Demon and I were, you can imagine it as being like to U.S. Government. The president (Founder) comes in first followed by the Vice President (Co-Founder). Meanwhile the Secretary of War (Me) merely helps plan and direct battles, but not lead the clan. Demon and I went over this and made all of the specifications. I am in no way in control of the clan merely directed by the Founder and Co-Founder. To say I lead Overlords with Demon is like saying that Demonstriker590 (General of the 2nd Legion of Defiance) leads Defiance, yet he has no control. It's the same principle in this case. Sorry for any confusion-Akiyama25


Thanks for the Notification. I really don't want to do this 'cause I don't want SaintofDarkness lose his trust on me. Please forward your message to him. Anyway, again, Thanks.

~~ SysOp _DrakeGuard_ // Talk Page // BloodLine Conquerors


Thanks for undoing the spam from Cactar, this has Jooda written all over it.

--En guarde! Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 15:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

A Question

I took the liberty of scanning other clan pages and I was wondering about the "Who We Are" I didn't see other clans with this? And i incerted my clans test thnx


Legion of the Cursed Bones

This clan has expired. I would remove the clan but since you posted the notice I feel it is right for you to do so :D

--Naf2.png // Transparent.png // SysOp and Hall of Fame Official // Sent On: 02:51, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan Notice

Just a question, are you allowed to make a new clan if your old one has been deleted?

If not, Aionios was previously, if you read the content, All Star Ph.

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 04:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me

i had added the MEMBERS list to my page everything else besides the banner was all ready there --Master Sheperd 12:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

alright i fixed it

better? im going to apply for evil or vampire faction leader --Master Sheperd 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

arent you gonna remove the note now?

you forgot to.. please remove

Telling you somthing.

I would like to bring to your attention the clan "FABLE FIGHTERS" I am aware they don't meet the requirments for a clan and I thought i would tell oyu.


Also. I was wondering. If your a founder of a clan can you join oter clan's as a regualr member or not?

your last message

please simplify and i dont see how im being rude --Master Sheperd 00:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Simple Misunderstanding

Well, it seems we have come to a simple misunderstanding here. You banned the clan Legion Lords, and said the reason was that you were sick of people leading more than one clan. Well, that's where the misunderstanding comes into play. I was never going to lead that clan, as was stated on their member list which listed Dr Floyd as the clan leader. Dr Floyd is my friend, and he wanted to make a clan. Sadly, he has never created a new page on the wiki, let alone a clan, and i wanted to get him started. All i did was create the page, and add the color scheme, because i wanted to help my friend. Clearly you cannot ban a clan, because its leader needs help?

Now, i will request formally on the clan restoration page for this clan to be restored, and if will solve this problem of misunderstanding in the future, i will cease to edit that clan page.

Thank you for hearing me out, and i hope that we can calmly and professionally sort this out.

--En guarde! Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 01:21, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, i undeerstand not being able to request resoration, but about Mezkiel being in another clan, why wouldn't you post a warning message like on all the other clans?

--En guarde! Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 03:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

ok, hows this

as it clearly states on the page on bold lettering If You Want To Join, OK Great The Only Thing You Have To Do Is Sign Up On The Site! We Welcome All :D ! its not mixed up by my view message me back if you see something wrong --Master Sheperd 02:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Hows This

Check out my page now --Master Sheperd 02:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

The Gray Mages Clan

The Gray Mages Clan has already the Who we are, Members List.

--Heatman 05:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


Since the other clan has been disbanded, im confused what do you wan't me to do?

- Mezkiel


I've removed dlosh as an editor on the clan wiki

- Mezkiel

Ok This Is as Clear As Possible

ok The how to join is as simple and clear as possible it cant get any clearer --Master Sheperd 12:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

All right

Well there you go I've been kicked out of illusion for you... And to note I wasn't a Leader I was just an established member and why culd I not be a editor?

- dlosh

What do you want!

Look, your message makes no sense! what do you want?!

Clan Is Now Done

hey beta wolf, i added the history,members and how to join to my clan, Destiny of the Fallen Damacron 10:33, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok How Is It Now

Took Example From Order of Dark wolf So if its wrong so is theres Also Youre Not Really Telling Me What I Need To Add or Take Away It Would Help If You Did --Master Sheperd 12:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

appreciated you're help ,Master Sheperd --Master Sheperd 12:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan Leadership

So does leading two clans count as co-leader (Ark-Lords, etc..)? Just wanted that clarifyed so I can get a case solved.

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 01:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan: King Alteon's Legion

I have gathered 5 members, please remove your warning from the clan page.

j0rd1, Leader Of King Alteon's Legion


I don't know about you, but your SysOp notice on Aionios still remains. Maybe you should take some action?

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 00:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

The Gray Mages Clan

Ok. We Already Have 5 members. please remove now the warning in our clan

--Heatman 07:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Clan: Street Fighters

I have added a SEPERATE How to Join section and I am extremely sorry about this.

24th December 2010


PS Sorry I didn't get this message sorry if it was too late for this message.


Ok, so the rules were changed from "Stay stationary" to "No running into safezones"? I'll ask Speed to put the "No running into safezones" down on the page, as I do not see it at the moment. Thanks-Akisigtest.jpeg//A Hall of FameOfficial//An Ark Lord of Defiance//My Talk// 10:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


Demonstriker590 removed. Defiance may now have said notice removed soon as you check :P Thanks-Akisigtest.jpeg//A Hall of FameOfficial//An Ark Lord of Defiance//My Talk// 07:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: seems as this player is in 2 teams. I will see to that he is removed from one of them. I am going to speak with the two clan leaders about this matter.

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 23:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Well...I guess we could ban some classes if you think it is unfair. But, I am not going to add anything yet. If you know of any other classes involving this, please do tell.

- SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 03:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)