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The All Powerful Lord of the Talk Page (Be Afraid) is accepting any questions/comments.


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Thank you in advance for listening to these rules.

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User talk:Beta wolf/October 2010 Chat Log
User talk:Beta wolf/November 2010 Chat Log
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User talk:Beta wolf/January 2011 Chat Log


how do you add a clan i do not know how to can you help.

Clan name restrictions ?_?

Hey, i saw you back-and-forth with Liz about have AQ, AQW, DF, etc. in a clan's name. And i was just thinking...when did it change from being that to something else? I remember it being that when i joined, that it said AQ, AQW, DF, etc. couldn't be in the name, and then when i saw your posts i checked and it only said you couldn't put AE in the title. Am i going crazy (V.V) or can you let me know when it changed?

PS: 1st post, Win! \(^o^)/

To speak with a representative, please say Representative... Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 21:10, 31 January 2011 (EST)


They're from Zazul regarding a particular website that used AQWorlds in their name. Somewhat confidential, so I don't feel like posting them here. Do you have an email address? Also, I will be blanking certain words, if you don't mind, as the messages didn't directly concern me, and it isn't really my right to embarrass the person to whom this happened to. Either way, as long as you're taking responsibility for the name, then that's alright with me. I just don't want trouble here on the wiki, especially after the last copyright battle.

--SysOp Lizargeco // My Talk 00:19, 1 February 2011 (EST)


Sent, though I still don't understand fully why you want to read them xD --SysOp Lizargeco // My Talk 00:23, 3 February 2011 (EST)


I can't offer any more than what I did. Look, it's not a big deal. Let the clan use AQW in their title, and if it bothers AE, we can just take it off. I'm just trying to prevent potential issues, nothing more.

--SysOp Lizargeco // My Talk 20:37, 3 February 2011 (EST)


Hey, just bringing this to your attention, check the history for proof, i was skeptical too.

To speak with a representative, please say Representative... Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 20:53, 3 February 2011 (EST)

New Navigation Templates in quests

  • This a project I just started to try to organize all the quests please do not delete these templates I think they will help improve this wiki. Unless you can give me a good idea to try not to organize all the quests in different fashion.

--Sysop Village Idiot 13:03, 6 February 2011 (EST)

Frauds...on the wiki

The Black Ninja is a total fraud. To begin with, they declared Defiance their allies without our consent. More recently I've contacted one of their "leaders" and he didn't even know that the clan existed. On their member list I noticed a guy I knew. I happen to know that nobody else knows him so I talked to him and he never joined it. They just saw him on Defiance's member list and put him on theirs. With all this evidence, I find it most appropriate to report that "clan" for fraudulent claims and involving players and clans without their knowledge and consent. Personally, this just annoys me beyond belief and I decided to leave you thing long paragraph to ask one simple question: Is there anything that you can do about it? It's totally disrupting Defiance's members and it really shook us when they declared us allies without our knowledge...Anyways it's just affecting my clan too much. So, yeah... Do what you gotta do. Thanks-
Snapshot 151.PNG 15:00, 12 February 2011 (EST)


the black ninja

ey this is demon blade54 from black ninja i was the leader who didnt know it existed untilfew days ago and yes i think it should be removed for fraud

Ban Winner10000

He spammed/blanked Aki's user page, i am currently un doing his edit as he saves them. Here's the proof

To speak with a representative, please say Representative... Worse Doughnut Leader of The Pheonix Gods 21:27, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Hotdognamalaki is my character

Im teasing my own account



Sorry about that, I was grounded and assumed my info was up to date...

Snapshot 151.PNG 15:41, 16 February 2011 (EST)

Advertising is usernames?

You being the master of deletions, I thought I'd point this new user account out to you. Last I heard, accounts like this got deleted so...


Snapshot 151.PNG 17:45, 17 February 2011 (EST)


The Axis
Sounds like COC and CAC all over again....

Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 02:44, 6 March 2011 (EST)

  • If i may interject seeing as how i was front-and-center with the COC/CAC feud. I dont think its even relativly close to being like it, seeing as how COC/CAC was a dispute about clans uniting against a certin faction, where as the Axis is more about try to group clans together to then have it be named the Unity Faction Leader (im guessing, but i kinda makes sense that way).

To speak with a representative, please say Representative... Worse Doughnut An AQWorlds Wiki SysOp // My Art 22:50, 6 March 2011 (EST)

  • I dont mean to contradict you, i juat want to know your reasoning so that i can do the same in the future. Why/jow was the Axis going against the wiki's clan/guild rules?

Rawr! Worse Doughnut An AQWorlds Wiki SysOp // My Art 11:49, 9 March 2011 (EST)


Ummm u deleted alot of stuff i had on my user page and deleted my classes guide. Why?


ok im fine with ur reasoning for the one similar to wiki sysop badge but with the mod pic if i put at the bottom of my page not all images shown are authentic would it be allowed?

-major wtf


could u plz restore my classes guide page for a day or two so i can copy it onto another page with the right format

P.S could u plz explain to me what u mean by right format xD

-Major WTF


i heard that Clan Alliance are allowed but not allowed to have a separate page. Mind explaining this then Clan:U.F.A.C.

The Holy Undead

Ok, i know that the Holy Undead was not following the correct clan page format, but that's what the warning is for. They would have seen it when they logged on, and made the required edits. Oh, and you cant add "not enough information" as the deletion reason, seeing as how they were never given a 5-day grace period. How do you expect the wiki to get any good reputation, if you delete any clan that forgets to read the rules. And yes, i know that not read the rules is no excuses, but im being realistic.

Rawr! Worse Doughnut An AQWorlds Wiki SysOp // My Art 16:43, 15 March 2011 (EDT)

Actually, i was still waiting for a response to this. But, what i see now, is that we should add a more noticeable message on the top of the clan category page letting new users know the rules, seeing as how they wont know from past experience. Its just an idea, but i think it would lower the umber of incorrectly formatted clan pages.

......... Worse Doughnut An AQWorlds Wiki SysOp // My Art 15:32, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Ok, i guess that makes sense. But if it's ok with you, when i delete pages like that, i will in say to add the correct prefix in the description on the deletion, and i hope you will too. This way, they wont keep just recreating the page.

......... Worse Doughnut An AQWorlds Wiki SysOp // My Art 16:54, 28 March 2011 (EDT)

Unity Faction Leader Vote

Greetings Beta wolf,


You have been selected by the Clan Hall of Fame to select the next Unity Faction Leader!

You may vote for one of the following:

Your leader can place a vote via Personal Messaging (PM's) on Loreforum. Simply create a Loreforum account if you do not already own one, and PM Extreme speed. Here is a link to Loreforum and the location you can send your vote at.

Click to send vote!

Just visit the "Contact Extreme Speed" section, click on "PM: Send private message" and vote! Remember, vote honestly based on who you think will make the best Unity Faction Leader!

Snapshot 151.PNG 01:15, 30 March 2011 (EDT)

A little abnormal for this to go here, but that's my orders.

O_O I didn't review that application, Akiyama25 did, so ask him how they got in. But anyway, I think I know who you're gonna vote're voting right?

Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 01:53, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Thanks ;D
Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 02:14, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Re: QQ

You would have to ask Akiyama25 on that; apparently Chaos Shaper is capable of dealing 3K+ damage. But don't trust me, ask him.

Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 23:12, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, I spent today in PvP 1 hit KOing a bunch of people with 2.8-3.7K hits. I'm pretty sure that seems pretty...unfair.

Akiyama25// A Hall of Fame Official//My Talk 23:14, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

60% to 40%...The damage it deals to you compared to what it dishes out is far to big a difference to consider balanced. In any case, I've read through the post on the Tournament's talk page and I'm currently thinking about what has been said. Also, my reluctance is for one simple reason: most likely wont happen isn't the same as wont happen. And besides, with our luck, anything that can go wrong will go wrong ^_^

Please note I prefer my messages on my user talk, not on my user page, which you placed your message on xD
Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 23:28, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

A valid point, but the difference remains. It takes one simple click, not even a combo, to dish out this massive damage and it happens much more frequently. Oh, and we're currently editing the list of classes...So yeah, take a look in a little bit.

lol that's fine xD
Extreme speed - Character Avatar.png SysOp Extreme speed, A Hall of Fame Official // My Talk 23:34, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

I don't doubt such things as I've seen them and done them myself. Necromancer just hasn't been brought up until now. Either way, it's obvious enough that Chaos Shaper is still a much more powerful class than the norm and is not available to every player. Necromancer is widely available which may be one reasons why it hasn't even been brought up yet. Whatever the circumstances, we can't change a simple fact that always comes out on top: Certain classes are too powerful and though it will create complaints, they still must be prohibited.

I get my info from experience. Every class has the potential to deal high damage, though not all of them have the ability to ensure high damage. While ninja/assassin may be in 'godmode' in 1v1, it still has many weaknesses such as Warrior, Doomknight, or any other classes with stun/dodge abilities. Once more, though your points are valid, they only can support so many scenarios while others may support more. No matter what we do and try, somebody will complain and it is not our job to redo the entire layout of the tournament for another person's convenience when it only inconveniences another 5 players from a different team. Anyway, from whatever point you look at it, this conversation is getting nothing done, so if you have any specific things you want to see done, send them to me and I'll see what I can do. If not, I fear we're both just wasting time and creating pointlessly long posts on one another's talk pages.

The deletions

Clan leader or appointed member must make 10 edits to wiki (game) articles every month, or their clan will be removed due to inactivity. Clans on this wiki are a privilege for active contributors. Remember this.
I've never liked clans, if you can remember all the way back to the early days. I was not informed that I needed to warn people prior to deleting, so I apologize for that. I'll try to send a message clarifying my actions to all the affected leaders. As to you saying Contributor of the Month encompassing the rule above, I made the rule before Al thought of it.
EDIT: Okay, edits gone up. Clans restored, message, which I'll post below, sent, and everything back to normal. Happy? I restored every clan I got for that rule except Mazune's, since that one flamed me.

Since I made the rules, I was under the impression I could freely add to them whenever I thought of something. As to those clans who were not truly dead, but around one week to it, I deleted them since I was tired and probably missed the dates. I don't recall mentioning your clan, though none of the members I know of made contributions, so it was added to the sweep. Also, I would like to see where Al said this.
Well, since you can't find it, I guess it doesn't matter anymore. Makes me free to add back the rule until you can find it. ~ The power of DeathKnight compels you! DeathKnight 19:44, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

Etherstorm Wastes page

Hello I wanted to order the new area Firestorm and airstorm. And wanted that the meta page should be Etherstorm wastes, But for some reason the page is markes as unnecessary??? And on the front page is still a page referring to it for the class that will com there. Please lift the ban in my opinion it is a necessary page. Greetings Skaet

J6 Helm

Hi Beta Wolf can you unprotect J6 Helmet because now the npc exists in aqw please do it if you can.

Seelkadooom Hate Wolf.pngSeelkadooom //Leader of Lightning Riders// My Talk AQWORLDS WIKI USER.png Sent on: 13:09, 11 February 2012 (EST)

My clans page

It does meet the requirments, and I do have one near the lower middle. Could you please explain more of what I need to do to keep my clan on the wiki ?

--KSI Beast 09:46, 8 March 2012 (EST)KSI Beast


What do you mean by "Player owned mass alliances are to be kept on alliance pages, NOT in new categories." you deleted my category but I don't understand what you mean to say.

Seelkadooom.png //Leader Lightning Riders// My Talk 07:25, 9 March 2012 (EST)

Celtic Warriors

Your warning seems incorrect, Celtic warriors aren't denying anyone access based on armors, if you mean there uniforms, they haven't stated anywhere that they are mandatory especially as they could merely be advised wear. You really should have asked if joining was required on having them before your warning. --Just some guy // My talk 14:29, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

Seems rather unnecessary to advise some one not to break a rule they're not breaking in the first place, especially with other clans that have uniforms but no warning, quite...inconsistent.--Just some guy // My talk 06:28, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Oh and I'm not even slightly related to Celtic Warriors, your warning just made me feel like I should intervene.


Beta, please try to check wiki rules before misinforming a user, especially with clans. Even I got over them once before sending clan related messages.

"Cannot lead or be a leader of two separate clans. Anyone doing so will get their clan (or clans depending on the situation) an instant disband."

A person may be in two clans as long as they do not hold a command position in both, and as such, they may also lead one and be within another, once more, so long as a command position is retained from them.

~Phantom//SysOp//A Hall of Fame Official//My Talk 02:59, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

  • And actually, upon reading your contributions, I see it necessary that instead of taking action, you should try to get into a habit of supporting your action. Removing clan rules, for example, shouldn't be done without consent and should be left to HoFOs or ran by them. The phrase "Do not tamper with my messages, Mekoolness" is also found, which wouldn't have been there if you'd checked and noted that there were two individual notes under the same title, but different nonetheless. My only point is that you should always have support for your actions, as I see you do not in many cases.
    • That doesn't work. The common sense card tells me that after seeing DeathKnight and now you editing rules based on what each of you think, individually, is better, is not going to work. Running clan rules through the HoF is to prevent excessive rule editing. Whether or not you agree with it, you cannot just walk around and change these things whenever. Nor can I, or anyone for that matter. It is for that very reason that there needs to be a limitation, and the Hall of Fame is chosen to provide that limitation as they are already active in the clan community.

Edit: Beta, I wont argue this. There must be a limitation on editing rules, and whether or not you are concerned about images, logic, or anything else, I'm sure you can appreciate the idea that this is something that just needs done. The two rules you wanted to add...Did you plan on explaining them? All you've said was they're old rules that should never have left, but, from my point of view, they were only brought up after Centher's post on my talk and my response. And even so, all they did was create an unfair situation to drive away from new clan creation. All I'm saying is that your specific rulings are not final, and, for that matter, nothing we do can or ever will be final. We can support it with everything possible, but we cannot make it final. And not only is our job to do exactly what needs done, but it's to justify what needs done. Anyway, we each don't need crowded talk pages. If you do wish to respond, LoreForum PMs is a wiser option.

the rule...

Well if you look on the clan page again it does have the beginnings of some basic information, which i was going to add more on the day you deleted it. How to join: 'we are on zhoom so come and find a leader'. So really we have put some basic information.

Mod List

Hey Beta,

It was brought to my attention by Ashari that if a user searches for the in-game moderators the search does not include pages under User Pages such as User:NafetsTheGreat/AQWorlds Moderators. She suggested that we create a normal page that can easily be lead to and redirected to. That is why I created the AQWorlds Moderators page. I assume you do not agree with this? What are your thoughts on it?

--Naf2.png // SysOp and Administrator // Respond Here! // Sent On: 21:15, 29 March 2012 (EDT)

hey beta,

hey again,
i have been worried about the wiki for a while i feel as if the wiki is settling down in the clan's department.
For example i applied for vampire fraction leader for my clan vampire knight in jan 19th.
The last approval on the page for requests was on jan 9th and since then nothing has been accepted or denied.
i offer my services if you feel it is necessary.
yours sincerely,
--Wiki picxliausx.jpg Xliausx // Leader of Vampire Knight // my talk Welcoming committee.png AQWORLDS WIKI USER.png 20:22, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

Re: to re:hey beta dear Beta, lolz sorry blonde moment!
how are you?? hows everything going witht the wiki and what not?
yours sincerely,
--Wiki picxliausx.jpg Xliausx // Leader of Vampire Knight // my talk Welcoming committee.png AQWORLDS WIKI USER.png 06:21, 23 April 2012 (EDT)